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QANTAS/QATAR: Qantas staff stripped of discount business class upgrades on Qatar

QANTAS/QATAR: Qantas staff stripped of discount business class upgrades on Qatar

It’s been known for some time that Akbar Al Bakar at Qatar Airways, and former CEO of Qantas, Alan Joyce, don’t see eye-to-eye. At times, that has been on public display. But what we didn’t know is that it could descend into tit-for-tat retribution for Qantas staff.

Qantas Staff discounts

AFR reports that Qatar Airways currently offers Qantas staff highly discounted business class fare upgrades. We are talking one 10th of the usual retail sticker price. This perk has been popular amongst Qantas staff, understandably, with many taking advantage of this on a regular basis. After all, Qatar Business Class – or ‘QSuites’ in its signature cabins, is regarded as one of, if not the best, business class in the air.

Qantas has just advised its staff that access to these seats at those deeply discounted prices has been rescinded. After 18 September, they will no longer be available. Qatar will then revert to its standard obligations under the Oneworld membership agreement. That’s not access to discounted business seats. That’s merely access to economy. See you in cattle class, sweeties!

If staff want Business Class, then they will be paying full-fee. And without that additional access to Australian air rights, those full-fee business class fares are going to remain high.

Reader Chase tells me

One of my blog readers has commented on the mechanics of how this is done. You can read his explanation down in the comments. Essentially, there are ‘ZED’ categories of fares for stand by within Y class (Economy) and J class (Business).

‘Depending on the ‘closeness’ of the carriers relationship, the ZED chart is further broken down into low, medium, and high brackets. So this is just QR rescinding QF employee access to ZED J rates but still allowing for interline travel in Y.’

Chase

Chase notes that that such restrictions are not unusual.

a seat with a white pillow and a white pillow on the side
Qatar Business Class on the A380 – not QSuites [Schuetz/2PAXfly]

Background

Recently, Qantas has been known to covertly (at least) campaign against Qatar Airlines, to increase access to Australian skies. In the most recent controversy, Transport Minister Catherine King refused an additional 28 weekly flights by the carrier into Australia. The reasons given vary but have included the financial viability of Qantas, the security of Australian Airline jobs, the invasive searches of Australian female passengers after a baby was found abandoned at Doha Airport, and the ‘distortion’ of the Australian market.

Add to that a new partnership with Virgin Australia and CEO Jayne Hrdlicka’s request that the decision to refuse Qatar additional air rights be reopened, and you can see that Qatar has become a somewhat divisive organisation.

a man and two children sitting at a table in a plane

2PAXfly Takeout

Looks like an unintended consequence of Qantas lobbying against additional flights by Qatar Airways into Australia is the loss by Qantas staff of a prized perk – the ability to upgrade to Qatar Business Class – often known as QSuites, at a vastly discounted rate. Many Qantas staff members will have to re-think their holiday plans now.

Might make a few staff re-think attending Alan Joyce’s reputed farewell at Sydney’s restaurant of the moment Clam Bar.

6 Comments

  1. SMR

    This is through MYID travel and its not based on fare..it is standby and based on distance. Happens all the time, airlines get new partners and lose partners or sometimes gain business/lose business class.

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    • 2paxfly

      Hi SMR, thanks for your comment. Please feel free to explain further.

      Reply
  2. Chase

    Most carriers use the ‘ZED’ fare concept based on zones, rather than the historical ‘ID’ fares based on full fare YY prices. If an interline agreement allows, there are set ZED amounts for standing by for Y class and a higher amount for access to J class (‘higher’ but still extremely reasonable). Depending on the ‘closeness’ of the carriers relationship, the ZED chart is further broken down into low, medium, and high brackets. So this is just QR rescinding QF employee access to ZED J rates but still allowing for interline travel in Y. It’s pretty normal and happens from time to time, but in this case there probably is some background noise like you point out.

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    • 2paxfly

      Hey Chase, Thanks for your excellent comment. That adds to my understanding of the mechanics of these things. I will slightly amend the story to incorporate the information you have provided.

      Reply
  3. James smith

    So many errors. It’s Qatar Airways and Akbar Al Baker, a simple google search would help.

    Reply
    • 2paxfly

      Hi James, thanks for your correction. Not a lack of google skills, more an oversight. I have corrected it now. Happy to correct anything else you pick up.

      Reply

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